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overlapping speakers ] >> last time we were on together you were saying the world was going to end because greece was going to default and leave the euro. it's all over. europe's fine. just give it a break. that was last year's story. [ overlapping speakers ] >> europe is not fine. spain is in significantly worse position. they've taken on more debt into deteriorating economy. you tell me how that translates to this has all been fixed and this is all solved. it's not solved at all. [ overlapping speakers ] >> spain has about the same debt to gdp ratio as germany. that good enough for you? >> [ overlapping speakers ] >> hang on, fellows. let's not get hung up on spain. what i want to come back to is the usa. because our market has not collapsed, it's really different than it looks like it was back in 2011. i just want to ask, is it better to own those low-rate bonds right now? or jim la camp, i want you both to weigh in quickly. is it better to own corporate bonds or treasury bonds during this tiff over the fiscal cliff, or is it better to own stocks? real quick. >> well, short term we're going to
overlapping speakers ] >> last time we were on together you were saying the world was going to end because greece was going to default and leave the euro. it's all over. europe's fine. just give it a break. that was last year's story. [ overlapping speakers ] >> europe is not fine. spain is in significantly worse position. they've taken on more debt into deteriorating economy. you tell me how that translates to this has all been fixed and this is all solved. it's not solved at all....
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it will remind me of greece. greece is getting bailed out. and going on back and forth. will there be a deal by december 31st? i don't think so, but if a deal gets penned out by mid-january, we can look forward to focusing on earnings and get this fiscal cliff over with so we can see what's going on important in the world, and that's earnings. >> let me -- can i comment on that? >> yeah, sure. >> i want to comment on rick santelli's optimistic view that maybe there really is a deal in the offing. he has a point, you know. it's not over, you know, until it's over and these guys do sometimes come up with last-minute deals, but i want to be very clear. in order for that to happen john boehner basically has to agree that he's going to get a deal out of house with majority democrat votes, and i don't see why he does that before january 3rd. >> you're assuming the president has all the leverage, and i think the president would have a horrible legacy starting out with such turmoil, so i disagree. i think there's movement on the white house side on entitlements. >> rick, you do
it will remind me of greece. greece is getting bailed out. and going on back and forth. will there be a deal by december 31st? i don't think so, but if a deal gets penned out by mid-january, we can look forward to focusing on earnings and get this fiscal cliff over with so we can see what's going on important in the world, and that's earnings. >> let me -- can i comment on that? >> yeah, sure. >> i want to comment on rick santelli's optimistic view that maybe there really is a...
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greece's banks in fresh capital were gop going to go down to central bank. national bank, euro bank, alfa and peres need the money to close ratios following last week. greece confirmed that the 50 billion euros set aside for recapitalization will be enough to capture these shortfalls. stephane pedrazzi asked the ecb jean-claude trichet about greece. >> i think it is absolutely clear that out of the fears of the global observers have proved unfounded. i was always confivinced that i was unfounded that the assumption that they could leave the euro area, that they could refeud the adjustment which is necessary were wrong assumptions. and now we see and of course it's difficult, of course it's hard, it's tough. but people have to make adju adjustments which are very, very difficult. but, again, we are going in the right direction. again, it's very difficult. it goes in the right direction. >> you don't believe in the scenario for greek exit? >> no.. it's precisely because it appears very clearly that neither the greek people nor the greek government nor all peer
greece's banks in fresh capital were gop going to go down to central bank. national bank, euro bank, alfa and peres need the money to close ratios following last week. greece confirmed that the 50 billion euros set aside for recapitalization will be enough to capture these shortfalls. stephane pedrazzi asked the ecb jean-claude trichet about greece. >> i think it is absolutely clear that out of the fears of the global observers have proved unfounded. i was always confivinced that i was...
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all those predictions were -- >> they were playing ridiculously low rates in greece too. it's a dollar bubble. it's a treasury bond bubble. will it burst in 2013? maybe. it's going to burst eventually. it has to burst. >> peter, it's not a model. it's not a model to say something bad will happen eventually. >> your model about being a pollyanna and having your head in the sand -- >> it's not. >> how did you miss the financial crisis? >> i have no idea what you're talking about, peter. i have no idea what you're talking about. i was one of the first reporters to report on the housing and the mortgage crisis. i'll show you the clips. >> you were one of the guys laughing on me when i was report -- >> like a lot of what you say is ridiculous. >> guys, guys. [ overlapping speakers ] >> time-out. >> something bad will happen eventually, peter. >> time-out guys. i have a question for you peter. you're predicting currency crisis and significant depreciation of the u.s. dollar. what is the money going to? what is a good alternative currency? >> there is no good alternative. gold i
all those predictions were -- >> they were playing ridiculously low rates in greece too. it's a dollar bubble. it's a treasury bond bubble. will it burst in 2013? maybe. it's going to burst eventually. it has to burst. >> peter, it's not a model. it's not a model to say something bad will happen eventually. >> your model about being a pollyanna and having your head in the sand -- >> it's not. >> how did you miss the financial crisis? >> i have no idea what...
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>> and there's this incredible chance that greece will leave and the dominos will begin to fall. i think that's unluikely to happen as long as the ecb is willing to support that currency, but will it thrive? will those economies boom? i don't think so, i think it will be another year of recession and you will find individual opportunities and the stock picker's market and far as it's a strong growth, they're not there yet. >> thanks so much for joining us. good to see you tonight. >> you heard piers morgan talk about it with larry last week. after school shooting massacre in scotland in 1996 great britain banned virtually all handguns, seized them from people who already owned them. piers says it worked great, except it didn't. you're about to find out just how badly it's turned out and why we in america should pay attention. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to
>> and there's this incredible chance that greece will leave and the dominos will begin to fall. i think that's unluikely to happen as long as the ecb is willing to support that currency, but will it thrive? will those economies boom? i don't think so, i think it will be another year of recession and you will find individual opportunities and the stock picker's market and far as it's a strong growth, they're not there yet. >> thanks so much for joining us. good to see you tonight....
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we're not a socialist country yet and greece is a whole different ball of wax. rich, the discussion about the econy, the spending cuts that they're talking about do put people out of work and that would have a negative effect on the economy, would it not? >> it would, adam. real quick, a bit of news here. president obama will deliver a statement at 4:45, something i imagine we'll cover live here on fox business. adam: we will. >> 5:45 president obama deliver as statement here at the white house. as far as spending cuts are concerned, you see this argument, you typically hear republicans say, government spending doesn't create jobs. however when it comes to a number of defense cuts when it hits in their districts a number of them, if it hits companies in their districts well you have to stop defense cuts using an economic argument. when you talk about the $94 billion, well, yes there are economic effects that will be felt, the $94 billion in cuts down as sequester, you have to put that in perspective the sandy supplemental bill started out $60 billion. one storm
we're not a socialist country yet and greece is a whole different ball of wax. rich, the discussion about the econy, the spending cuts that they're talking about do put people out of work and that would have a negative effect on the economy, would it not? >> it would, adam. real quick, a bit of news here. president obama will deliver a statement at 4:45, something i imagine we'll cover live here on fox business. adam: we will. >> 5:45 president obama deliver as statement here at the...
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for greece as a whole, it means that and more. the headlines are about finance ministers, debt deals, austerity measures. but it's become clear that he problem here in greece now goes well beyond just the economy. as a recent european commission report says: after years of weak growth, the crisis is now having severe social consequences. look up and you still see the ancient acropolis, symbol of a glorious past. and some parts of the city bustle with holiday energy. but not far away: closed-up storefronts. and, further below the surface, this: a health clinic set up by the greek branch of the international aid group, doctors of the world to serve the country's newly poor. dr. nikitis kanakis is its director. >> brown: kanakis group, in fact, had to cut back some of its work in africa because of the needs at home. here in perama, unemployment tops 50% as the shrinking economy has crippled much of the local shipping industry. at the same time, the deeply indebted greek government has made dramatic budget cuts, including to health be
for greece as a whole, it means that and more. the headlines are about finance ministers, debt deals, austerity measures. but it's become clear that he problem here in greece now goes well beyond just the economy. as a recent european commission report says: after years of weak growth, the crisis is now having severe social consequences. look up and you still see the ancient acropolis, symbol of a glorious past. and some parts of the city bustle with holiday energy. but not far away: closed-up...
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though there are problems in some territories in europe like italy and spain, greece, of course. there are other strong markets. again, this is a reason why china and russia and brazil and india have become so important at the global scenario. >> okay, we wish you all the best. have a great few days there in singapore. >>> the british chancellor executive george osborne is giving his autumn statement today. the chancellor has already dropped big hints about what we can expect. katie barnfield has gone up to man chester to see how the government's economic mandate is really playing well. >> reporter: earlier this week, the chancellor george osborne warned that although the uk's economic recovery will take longer than planned, it would be catastrophic if he put down his austerity measures now. but it is a catastrophe already here? manchester looks like a thriving city. but with the surrounding areas home to some of the most economically disadvantaged parts of the uk. rows of shops stand unused and the number of people claiming benefits has risen almost 70% since 2008. the uk's oppo
though there are problems in some territories in europe like italy and spain, greece, of course. there are other strong markets. again, this is a reason why china and russia and brazil and india have become so important at the global scenario. >> okay, we wish you all the best. have a great few days there in singapore. >>> the british chancellor executive george osborne is giving his autumn statement today. the chancellor has already dropped big hints about what we can expect....
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need to look at larger solutions to our problems so we don't end up in the situation europe is, or greece with riots, or france with a top 75% tax rate that's driving people offshore. >> the problem may be that paul ryan coming through with solid plans on the deficit issue, and ultimately didn't win the white house. is it possible to have the conversation with america get voted in, and then take action? >> personally, i think the ryan plan was an abomination, because it was so vague, that you can't tell whether it was a real plan or not. >> it was not vague. it was written down in the house budget. >> it is absolutely unspecified across all kinds of loophole closings and other things, which makes it filed under category of fiction for anybody that's ever worked in the united states senate. >> specifically it's written specifically in the path to prosperity. it was passed by the house. you can look at path to prosperity in google. you see many of the details. at least the house passed a budget, which the senate has not done for the past three years. the house has laid out solutions. also,
need to look at larger solutions to our problems so we don't end up in the situation europe is, or greece with riots, or france with a top 75% tax rate that's driving people offshore. >> the problem may be that paul ryan coming through with solid plans on the deficit issue, and ultimately didn't win the white house. is it possible to have the conversation with america get voted in, and then take action? >> personally, i think the ryan plan was an abomination, because it was so...
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. >> susie: greece is one step closer to getting $57 billion in bailout loans. german lawmakers approved the deal reached earlier this week. greece agreed to measures that will drastically reduce its debt over the next seven years. european stock markets and the euro rose on the news. here on wall street, tom, a neutral day on most people here, investors here feeling anxious over the gridlock on the fiscal cliff. the last day of trading for november kind of wimped out. >> tom: yeah, not a lot of price action. lots of volume, though, to end the month, lots of trading volume, but not a lot of price movement here. let's go ahead and take a look at the market focus with the major indices this friday. the major stock indices ended essentlly changed today even with the rhetoric out of washington. the s&p 500 spent most of the session in the red after the disappointing drop in consumer spending. the index finished with a fractional gain. trading volume spiked at the end of the month. 1.2 billion shares on the big board. just under 2.2 billion on the nasdaq. two traditi
. >> susie: greece is one step closer to getting $57 billion in bailout loans. german lawmakers approved the deal reached earlier this week. greece agreed to measures that will drastically reduce its debt over the next seven years. european stock markets and the euro rose on the news. here on wall street, tom, a neutral day on most people here, investors here feeling anxious over the gridlock on the fiscal cliff. the last day of trading for november kind of wimped out. >> tom: yeah,...
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, and the next president will inherit the kind of situation that today characterizes come by once a greece, too extreme, but i would say italy. holy irresponsible for any republican member of the house of representatives to vote for the package that mitch mcconnell is negotiating on their behalf without their leaders present. it is a ridiculous package. it does not work, and it will solve our long-term debt problems. gerri: i never have to guess at what you think. you are always clear isabela and entertaining. thank you for coming out tonight. have a great new year. >> happy new year. gerri: no votes in the house tonight. meanwhile, we go off the cliff tomorrow. it does not applicable be a happy new year. our political panel place the blame game next. ♪ [hip-hop music] ♪ - ♪ what's wrong with the world, mama ♪ ♪ people livin' like they ain't got no mamas ♪ ♪ i think the whole world's addicted to the drama ♪ ♪ only attracted to the things that'll bring the trauma ♪ ♪ where is the love - ma'am. - [gasps] - you forgot your purse. - oh. thank you. thank you very much. ger
, and the next president will inherit the kind of situation that today characterizes come by once a greece, too extreme, but i would say italy. holy irresponsible for any republican member of the house of representatives to vote for the package that mitch mcconnell is negotiating on their behalf without their leaders present. it is a ridiculous package. it does not work, and it will solve our long-term debt problems. gerri: i never have to guess at what you think. you are always clear isabela...
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they still call it a recession with 25 percent unemployment in spain, greece. things are getting worse everywhere. the austerity measures, what austerity measures? i got one. make a story. i'll make a bad bet. i don't want to take my losses. of take the money from you, mr. citizen. of tax you more, cat your services. what you do did you will pay more for my note that your pension and benefits. tom: how does all this in? we wind up with pitchforks? >> it's happening now. they don't call it class warfare. that is what is going on over there. again, there is no air spring. there's nothing about a pro-democracy movement. far too few had much too much and way too many head was too little. the people in the street that one piece of the pipe command it's going on around the world. and for some reason people are oblivious to it. look in this country, college graduates, the income is declining eight or 10% since the recession. you can't find a job. 3 percent of them have jobs paying high-school wages. so you're right. it's not getting better, and again, we have the inco
they still call it a recession with 25 percent unemployment in spain, greece. things are getting worse everywhere. the austerity measures, what austerity measures? i got one. make a story. i'll make a bad bet. i don't want to take my losses. of take the money from you, mr. citizen. of tax you more, cat your services. what you do did you will pay more for my note that your pension and benefits. tom: how does all this in? we wind up with pitchforks? >> it's happening now. they don't call it...
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this country is not becoming greece. this country -- this country, frankly, has a big unemployment problem. we have a deficit problem in the short term, not the long term. it's not a real problem now. our bonds selling higher than before and lower interest rates. it's not an immediate problem. he's saying what's worse. what he is saying is use blackmail on the entire economy like a gangster. pity if it happens to blow up. not increasing the debt ceiling -- >> already did that before. they have done it before. >> they have. >> and will do it again. >> frankly, that is obnoxious beyond belief. the president should not concede or negotiate on that basis at all. >> the president is adamant on the fact that's not a part of this conversation. >> it cannot be a part of any conversation. the debt ceiling is not a question of borrowing more. you determine how much deficit you will have passing the budget two, three, four years ago. >> correct. >> to say you won't raise the debt ceiling is to say you're not going to pay the bills
this country is not becoming greece. this country -- this country, frankly, has a big unemployment problem. we have a deficit problem in the short term, not the long term. it's not a real problem now. our bonds selling higher than before and lower interest rates. it's not an immediate problem. he's saying what's worse. what he is saying is use blackmail on the entire economy like a gangster. pity if it happens to blow up. not increasing the debt ceiling -- >> already did that before. they...
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on in terms of labor reform in the likes of portugal, ireland, some even to some degree in spain and greece. and that wouldn't have happened without the pressure in the markets. >> obviously. jim, we want to thank you very much for calling in on this new year's eve and wish you a happy 2013 to you, as well. >> happy new year's to you guys. good luck to you. >> things. >>> coming up, we're going to calm to some politicians and congress people. we have shelly moore-capito and congressman greg meeks of new york will join us on the show to talk about the biggest sticking points. at the top of the hour, vice chairman and republican policy committee chairman tom price will be our special guest. "squawk box" coming right back. this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain
on in terms of labor reform in the likes of portugal, ireland, some even to some degree in spain and greece. and that wouldn't have happened without the pressure in the markets. >> obviously. jim, we want to thank you very much for calling in on this new year's eve and wish you a happy 2013 to you, as well. >> happy new year's to you guys. good luck to you. >> things. >>> coming up, we're going to calm to some politicians and congress people. we have shelly...
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i think we can be a bit less worried about greece next year than we can be this year, for example, as well as in spain the government is considering a variety of reform efforts. indeed, despite the exchange in governments we had this year, it's the french deposit. when we look at it in aggregate, i think the tailwinds are starting to overcome the headwinds. the headwinds are still going to be there. the fiscal one is very important. there are still going to be risks on the european side. there's still the geopolitics which, of course, we can't ignore here. but in aggregate, i think those tailwinds are starting to get more traction and that's particularly becoming true in the u.s. housing market. >> what's interesting to that point is that we're coming to a year where even some of those concern are going away. central banks are starting to get extraordinarily accommodative. i wonder if their measures haven't been too back end loaded. certainly when you look at japan, it has pursued cycles earlier and had more impact. what about the sense ta whether it's the fed, whether it's the bank o
i think we can be a bit less worried about greece next year than we can be this year, for example, as well as in spain the government is considering a variety of reform efforts. indeed, despite the exchange in governments we had this year, it's the french deposit. when we look at it in aggregate, i think the tailwinds are starting to overcome the headwinds. the headwinds are still going to be there. the fiscal one is very important. there are still going to be risks on the european side....
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i want to turn around the spending problem we have that will prevent us from becoming greece, and if you will lead, i will follow, and yes, i will raise more revenue in a responsible way, but without you, it's going to be hard for us to get there. so the next time we meet is going to be around the debt ceiling, and the image i want is not a bunch of people behind the president who are clapping for him, but members of congress, republicans and democrats behind the president clapping for the president because he signed a bill that will save all of us from a certain fate. and our fate is being sealed as i talk unless we make changes. we cannot survive on the course we're taking today. the good news is with some bipartisanship and presidential leadership, we still have time to turn around this country and actually dominate the 21st century. it's going to take some pain, it's going to take some sacrifice, but one final story. when i was 21, my mom died. when i was 22, my dad died 15 months later. we were in -- my family owned a liquor store, a restaurant and a pool room, and everybody i k
i want to turn around the spending problem we have that will prevent us from becoming greece, and if you will lead, i will follow, and yes, i will raise more revenue in a responsible way, but without you, it's going to be hard for us to get there. so the next time we meet is going to be around the debt ceiling, and the image i want is not a bunch of people behind the president who are clapping for him, but members of congress, republicans and democrats behind the president clapping for the...
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we are heading down the same path that greece did. right now the democrats are talking about raising taxes on the top 2%. if we do not stop the spending, we will be back here again maybe one year from now saying, maybe we need to raise taxes on the top 25% or 50%. then everybody will be taxed and we will run out of money. what is going to happen is the federal government is not going to be able to take care of its obligations. you are not going to be able to have safety nets. social security and medicare are going broke. we have to fix those of those who are dependent on those systems can get them. continuing to spend money like both parties have been doing the, wild spending is going to lead us to be just like greece. we are not going to be able to take care of the poor or the needy or take care of senior citizens. we have to stop spending. host: this is fiscal year 2010, but it has not changed significantly in terms of percentage. 41% of the federal budget. not defense appropriations 19%. defense spending 20%. the national debt 6%.
we are heading down the same path that greece did. right now the democrats are talking about raising taxes on the top 2%. if we do not stop the spending, we will be back here again maybe one year from now saying, maybe we need to raise taxes on the top 25% or 50%. then everybody will be taxed and we will run out of money. what is going to happen is the federal government is not going to be able to take care of its obligations. you are not going to be able to have safety nets. social security...
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i'm not going to raise until we become serious about keeping the country from becoming greece and saving social security and medicare. not to turn social security into private account. adjust the age for social security and cpi changes and means testing and look beyond the ten year window. i cannot in good conscience raise the debt ceiling without addressing the long-term debt problems of this country and i will not. >> chris: and you heard president obama say we have to get out of that habit. not going to start trading debt ceiling increases for spending cuts. >> i think the key to what lindsey is saying is that you don't affect people on these programs now. you do it in a way for the too you tour so that long-term the programs are eceptionly changed and more constricted. is not entire early popular on my side but it is realistic, i think. i think this is a very hard time for people. and we need to get by this and we need to have a robust economy again. and it can happen i'm convinced. if we solve this and move down you can do those things that enabled the programs to be solvent in it a
i'm not going to raise until we become serious about keeping the country from becoming greece and saving social security and medicare. not to turn social security into private account. adjust the age for social security and cpi changes and means testing and look beyond the ten year window. i cannot in good conscience raise the debt ceiling without addressing the long-term debt problems of this country and i will not. >> chris: and you heard president obama say we have to get out of that...
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when you look at how much we are spending we are similar to spain and greece. it is not a pretty scenario. >> tell me this what happens when we judge up against it? >> everybody starts wondering when we are going to raise the debt ceiling. there's a debate because they don't like to. then you have all of wall street looking at this wondering if we will be able to pay our bills. you remember what happened last time around the market sold off 2,000 points over the 2 month period. it was dramatic and hurt people's 401 k's. if you can't pay your bills you get a downgrade. >> again. >> it's not going to be good news. you know what happens you can't borrow as much money. >> that's what happens to me. >> it costs you more to borrow. all of us coming together it will be -- it could be we would be watching none of this would come to a surprise fell off the market every single day. they know what's happening. they know what's going on. it's not a surprise but nobody likes to see it. >> when they raise the debt ceiling is that to pay off debt already accrued. >> the money
when you look at how much we are spending we are similar to spain and greece. it is not a pretty scenario. >> tell me this what happens when we judge up against it? >> everybody starts wondering when we are going to raise the debt ceiling. there's a debate because they don't like to. then you have all of wall street looking at this wondering if we will be able to pay our bills. you remember what happened last time around the market sold off 2,000 points over the 2 month period. it...
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the only thing you left out of that wrap is just like greece. >> the first time an attorney general to be held in contempt. >> and the vote that the house republicans want is a political vote. >> they played a bad hand, right now it's going to be a witch hunt. if you get more then it becomes intervention. >> the water has just now breached over the sand dunes. >> hurricane sandy a superstorm meteorologists are calling a once in a lifetime occurrence. the whole coast is devastated. >> the number of ambulances to move these children is remarkable. >> and lost homes in many forms-- ♪ ♪ >> andrew breitbart died this morning, he was 43. he was a publisher, an activist and a commentator, but that says almost nothing about this force of nature. he was a big kid who treated his opponents like humans. it was never about people, it was always, always about principles. . >> the u.s. has just evacuated all personnel from benghazi to tripoli. >> this was something that was a concerted effort, well organizationed, heavily armed. >> you have the american president, the secretary of state and ever
the only thing you left out of that wrap is just like greece. >> the first time an attorney general to be held in contempt. >> and the vote that the house republicans want is a political vote. >> they played a bad hand, right now it's going to be a witch hunt. if you get more then it becomes intervention. >> the water has just now breached over the sand dunes. >> hurricane sandy a superstorm meteorologists are calling a once in a lifetime occurrence. the whole...
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americans and the sad news for the country is that we accomplished little in terms of not becoming greece or getting out of debt. this deal won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we will have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president. he won. >> the time has come really to measure the absence of a deal plus against a deal and i think both of us come down that we have to solve this immediate situation. the danger to our people, to our military, to our nation's security, to our economic base is just too great not to have a solution. so you know, what makes this government work is compromise and it is when you don't compromise there is stasis. we had enough of that. >> joining us s chris wallace, anchor of "fox news sunday." good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> how could lindsey graham say it is a win for the president even though this does not deal with the out of control spending a $16 trillion plus budget deficit when the politi
americans and the sad news for the country is that we accomplished little in terms of not becoming greece or getting out of debt. this deal won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we will have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president. he won. >> the time has come really to measure the absence of a deal plus against a deal and i...
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but upper income americans and the sad news is we have accomplished little, in terms of not becoming greece, that bill will not affect the debt situation and it will be a a political victory for the president and i hope we have courage of our convictions, when it comes to raise the debt ceiling to fight what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: quick follow-up, before we turn to senator feinstein, you said you don't think your conservative colleagues in the senate will filibuster or set up a procedural roadblock, they'll vote to avoid going over the cliff. >> if mcconnell can't get 60% of us to vote for the deal it will be hard for boehner to get through the house and i will want to vote for it, though i don't like it them. country has a lot to the stake here. >> chris: senator feinstein, is senator graham right, will we get a deal. >> he's partially right. yesterday, 2.1 million americans lost extended unemployment insurance. and, from this point on, it is lose-lose. my big worry, is, a contraction of the economy. the loss of jobs, which could be well ove
but upper income americans and the sad news is we have accomplished little, in terms of not becoming greece, that bill will not affect the debt situation and it will be a a political victory for the president and i hope we have courage of our convictions, when it comes to raise the debt ceiling to fight what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: quick follow-up, before we turn to senator feinstein, you said you don't think your conservative colleagues in...
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so, remember, the debt per person in this country is $15,000 per person higher than it is in greece. so, we're not far from that position, and what we have to have is some realistic leadership that says let's think long term. everybody's going to have to sacrifice. there's not a problem we can't solve if we all work together, and we can do it, but everybody's going to have to have some pain. but let's think about the long term. let's quick thinking about the republican or democrat party. let's start thinking about the country. >> yeah. >> and that's what we're not seeing in leadership. >> michael -- >> everybody wants their own advantage, and so you hear all these sharp words coming out of different politicians about how bad the last guy is. what we ought to say is let's get the process moving. let's put it on the floor. why didn't we put -- you know, we wanted to put simpson/bowles on the floor. >> thank you. >> i want to see that. >> couldn't get it. >> michael, i know you're next. hold on one second, though. tom, senator, if the president showed up on capitol hill and rolled up hi
so, remember, the debt per person in this country is $15,000 per person higher than it is in greece. so, we're not far from that position, and what we have to have is some realistic leadership that says let's think long term. everybody's going to have to sacrifice. there's not a problem we can't solve if we all work together, and we can do it, but everybody's going to have to have some pain. but let's think about the long term. let's quick thinking about the republican or democrat party. let's...
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. >> greece will stain the euro in 2013. that's what lang merkel wants and she's holding the purse strings. she wants to be re-elected and doesn't want any cost of contagion in. the cost on a relative basis is cheap. mexico is the next hot market. almost unnoticed, our southern neighbor becoming an economic stronghold on its own. legal and financial reforms have led to a growing middle class. as china gets more expensive, mexico becomes more competitive in manufacturing. africa disappoints classic emerging markets of russia, brazil and china slow down from their heyday and so-called frontier funds have been started with a focus on the next hot growth area, focusing on africa and many believe now is the time. this is an overgeneralization. the rule of law is not widespread enough in the continent. there is a glimmer of hope such as sun nish sha. countries such as egypt still questionable. we have seen mass rioting there and growing concerns whether the new rule of law and new constitution will effectively protect investors. >
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plus, the republicans constantly say, well, we don't want to become like greece. what's driving off the fiscal cliff make us look like? it makes us look completely irresponsible as if we can't control our own spending and put in order some priorities. >> so there will be some real health care suffering if we go off the cliff, so to speak? >> that's absolutely true. i would say the other important thing we need to do, we want to incentivize doctors an hospitals to keep people well. not to just do procedures. and that is the key to really transforming medicare. >> all right. i want to show you a map of the states that are refusing to implement the insurance exchanges. it's rather interesting. the other states are either implementing the exchanges or haven't decided to do that. if states don't decide to do it and the federal government comes in and sets up the exchange, isn't that kind of a win for the move toward universal health care someday because that infrastructure will be there? >> well, i think it provides people an option whether governors are refusing or no
plus, the republicans constantly say, well, we don't want to become like greece. what's driving off the fiscal cliff make us look like? it makes us look completely irresponsible as if we can't control our own spending and put in order some priorities. >> so there will be some real health care suffering if we go off the cliff, so to speak? >> that's absolutely true. i would say the other important thing we need to do, we want to incentivize doctors an hospitals to keep people well....
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they did it with greece and the fiscal compact and the uk v vetoing the agreements. you can put it back together again. but there's an enormous amount of damage, a lack of credibility and a feeling of lack of investor confidence that's taken place during that process. and to your very point, let's look at this for a second. we have the fiscal cliff. you then have the debt ceiling. don't forget the debt ceiling. then you go back to the middle of 2013. by the time you get to it, you're back to a budget impass once again. so you're right, it's perpetual cliffs and falls and slowdowns. >> that just is not very heartening, my friend. so why is the u.s. stock market having one of the best years, one of the ten best years ever? >> that's an easy one. firstly, very low. 2008, look at the graph. and it's gone like that all the way down and it's come back up again and equities remain cheap. bonds weren't doing that much. it was a perfect opportunity to take advantage of certain special situations. but don't be fooled. there's an element of scotch missed about this. the first w
they did it with greece and the fiscal compact and the uk v vetoing the agreements. you can put it back together again. but there's an enormous amount of damage, a lack of credibility and a feeling of lack of investor confidence that's taken place during that process. and to your very point, let's look at this for a second. we have the fiscal cliff. you then have the debt ceiling. don't forget the debt ceiling. then you go back to the middle of 2013. by the time you get to it, you're back to a...
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i'm not going to raise the debt ceiling unless we get serious about keeping the country from becoming greece, saving social security and medicare. >> so, what senator graham is essentially outlining is that this is sort of a bargaining chip that the republican party does have. the debt limit today, we reach it, but we can get about another two months before we truly go over. do you agree with that sort of strategy that the debt limit be used as a way to kind of leverage more on the spending side out of the white house and democrats in congress? >> personally, no. i happen to think that when your credit card comes due, you pay the bill, but i can understand the frustration of people like lindsey graham, who's an extremely responsible and very, very good senator, in my opinion, because he wants to get something done. and what we're seeing here is very little action on the spending side of the ledger. let's say that leader mcconnell and vice president biden reach an agreement today, which i certainly hope they will, but that agreement clearly is just going to be on the revenue side. the majorit
i'm not going to raise the debt ceiling unless we get serious about keeping the country from becoming greece, saving social security and medicare. >> so, what senator graham is essentially outlining is that this is sort of a bargaining chip that the republican party does have. the debt limit today, we reach it, but we can get about another two months before we truly go over. do you agree with that sort of strategy that the debt limit be used as a way to kind of leverage more on the...
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my grandfather came here from greece. he opened a restaurant, the american dream. >> but he taught himself english. he taught himself to read the newspaper, and he became a very successful businessman. as he would say, only in america. youngstown was prosperous, and downtown youngstown was really prosperous. it was wonderful to go to downtown youngstown and be all dressed up in gloves and hat and going in and out of the shops and having lunch downtown. it was exciting. >> but that prosperity didn't last. youngstown ohio was the manufacturing backbone of this country but starting the late 1 1970s, the steel mill started to close, kicking this proud town in the gut. entrepreneur magazine named it one of the top ten best cities to start a new business. that's something that would have been unthinkable just a decade ago. >> it's a wireless device to allow students in the classroom to communicate with teachers. highly skilled, highly qualified people from a lot of good universities and colleges in the area, we were able to pic
my grandfather came here from greece. he opened a restaurant, the american dream. >> but he taught himself english. he taught himself to read the newspaper, and he became a very successful businessman. as he would say, only in america. youngstown was prosperous, and downtown youngstown was really prosperous. it was wonderful to go to downtown youngstown and be all dressed up in gloves and hat and going in and out of the shops and having lunch downtown. it was exciting. >> but that...
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we'll go the way of greece, and the president hasn't moved off that. he's still playing politics with these issues, and frankly i think most of us now don't care who gets the blame. we're concerned about our economy and about our paychecks. >> richard, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell took to the senate floor this afternoon and said despite the setback all is not loss. >> there's no situation that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest or frankly the courage to close the deal. i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> you know, so richard, here we are talking about this blame game, and everybody is pointing their fingers at one another as we've been hearing all afternoon. what do you think that republicans are looking for here? >> i heard the same "meet the press" interview that terry did. i didn't hear the president casting blame. what i heard was the president talking the ways in which he's gone more than halfway to the republicans' position on
we'll go the way of greece, and the president hasn't moved off that. he's still playing politics with these issues, and frankly i think most of us now don't care who gets the blame. we're concerned about our economy and about our paychecks. >> richard, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell took to the senate floor this afternoon and said despite the setback all is not loss. >> there's no situation that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a...
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upper income americans and sad news for the country we have accomplished very little of not becoming greece. this won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we'll have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe in. but hats off to the president. >> we have been talking to the republicans since the election has been over. they have had trouble to say yes to a number of repeated offers. >> so what kind of deal if any can we expect before the clock runs out? joining us for a fair balanced debate, tony is here, national political correspondent for talk radio news service and fox news contributor, jehmu greene former president of the women's media center. i wanted to start with senator graham's soundbite. if taxes are increased to top earners, i'll start with you. does it highlight the crux of the matter the fighting is about party politics and not the people? how do you see it? >> certainly the president is not walking around in a flight suited saying mission accomplished. this is not
upper income americans and sad news for the country we have accomplished very little of not becoming greece. this won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we'll have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe in. but hats off to the president. >> we have been talking to the republicans since the election has been over. they have had trouble to say yes to a number of repeated...
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. >> in some way was didn't happen, at the end of the year standard & poor's upgraded greeces bond rating europe found a way to muddle through. and the world didn't end on december 21st. >> woodruff: compactedly. which was a lot of people were take very seriously. >> but the mayans maybe not terrific forecasters. >> woodruff: looking back at 2012, michael kberb beschloss richard norton smith, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and again the major developments of this day >> suarez: again, the major developments of the day, bargaining on a fiscal cliff deal continued, but house republican leaders opted not to vote on anything tonight. that meant the government will >> the house adjourned for tomorrow so the government is guaranteed to go over the fiscal cliff, at least for the moment. and doctors at a new york hospital announced secretary of state hillary clinton has a blood clot between the school and brain. but they said she's making excellent progress. we're capturing new year's eve celebrations around the world and you can be a part of kwame holman has the details. >> holma
. >> in some way was didn't happen, at the end of the year standard & poor's upgraded greeces bond rating europe found a way to muddle through. and the world didn't end on december 21st. >> woodruff: compactedly. which was a lot of people were take very seriously. >> but the mayans maybe not terrific forecasters. >> woodruff: looking back at 2012, michael kberb beschloss richard norton smith, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and again...
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. >> in some way was didn't happen, at the end of the year, standard & poor's upgraded greeces bond rating, europe found a way to muddle through. and the world didn't end on december 21st. >> woodruff: compactedly. which was a lot of people were take very seriously. >> but the mayans maybe not terrific forecasters. >> woodruff: looking back at 2012, michael kberb beschloss, richard norton smith, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and again the major developments of this day, >> suarez: again, the major developments of the day, bargaining on a fiscal cliff deal continued, but house republican leaders opted not to vote on anything tonight. that meant the government will >> the house adjourned for tomorrow so the government is guaranteed to go over the fiscal cliff, at least for the moment. and doctors at a new york hospital announced secretary of state hillary clinton has a blood clot between the school and brain. but they said she's making excellent progress. we're capturing new year's eve celebrations around the world and you can be a part of kwame holman has the details. >> ho
. >> in some way was didn't happen, at the end of the year, standard & poor's upgraded greeces bond rating, europe found a way to muddle through. and the world didn't end on december 21st. >> woodruff: compactedly. which was a lot of people were take very seriously. >> but the mayans maybe not terrific forecasters. >> woodruff: looking back at 2012, michael kberb beschloss, richard norton smith, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and...
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. >> put us on a very slippery slope towards the plight of greece and spain and others who basically don't have that check. this whole notion of unlimited credit card is just pure poppycock and it's something that only can be dreamed of as a fiscally responsible thing in washington, d.c. >> but, you know, you still have a process and procedure in terms of the budget where the president proposes a budget and congress is playing a much more significant role in that process. when the time at which the idea of, you know, approving the debt ceiling was when congress was playing less of a role in the budget process. congress is far more engaged in that process. so, i don't think this is about going the way of greece or spain as much as it is, you know, people like to hold on to as much power as long as they think they can. >> karen -- >> ken, take a listen to what tom cole said earlier this week on taxes. take a listen to this. >> in my view we all agree that we are not going to raise taxes on people who make less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion right now. >> did
. >> put us on a very slippery slope towards the plight of greece and spain and others who basically don't have that check. this whole notion of unlimited credit card is just pure poppycock and it's something that only can be dreamed of as a fiscally responsible thing in washington, d.c. >> but, you know, you still have a process and procedure in terms of the budget where the president proposes a budget and congress is playing a much more significant role in that process. when the...
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. >> well, it didn't work that well in greece. not so positive in spain. these countries were deeply committed to your position. no tax increases. >> those states were bankrupted by their overspending. >> no one wanted to pay for it. >> the modern republican party wants less taxes and lower spending. they passed a ryan plan which reforms entitlements, reforms taxes, doesn't raise taxes. it's the democrats who don't have a legislative budget. >> make the case for why you view this the president making a truly balanced approach to not just solving this problem but really moving the economy forward. >> well, he has. and first of all, let's be clear. the way you get massive tax increases, $5 trillion tax increases, is if you go over the fiscal cliff. what the president has said, let's just ask higher income individuals to contribute a little more to reduce our deficit to prevent that from happening. the president has taken a balanced approach. look, we already entered into $1 trillion in cuts which we'll have to enforce and implement over the next 10 years, in
. >> well, it didn't work that well in greece. not so positive in spain. these countries were deeply committed to your position. no tax increases. >> those states were bankrupted by their overspending. >> no one wanted to pay for it. >> the modern republican party wants less taxes and lower spending. they passed a ryan plan which reforms entitlements, reforms taxes, doesn't raise taxes. it's the democrats who don't have a legislative budget. >> make the case for...